When to use Mystery Method and when to go Natural

Classic MM style game:

  • you avoid the target, and hold the target’s peergroup with total intrigue
  • they give you social proof because what you’re doing is intriguing, and this makes the target observe that you are socially proofed (you can also merge sets and get social proof prior to opening the desired set)
  • you use self-esteem negs to lower the targets self-esteem, and crave your attention to re-validate herself
  • you can phase shift into rapport more easily, because the interaction wasn’t

“out of control giggly party mode”

  • you befriend the people around you, so they push the girl on you
  • you don’t get as many ONS/fool’s mate, although you still get it – the two are just more conducive to their respective outcomes, but that DOES NOT mean that you won’t get both GFs and ONS with BOTH  methods, so let’s please not see retarded posts down the line from KJs who think that pickup is this black and white, because its not!  🙂

Now I know that Mystery and Style use a more classic MM style, where as I use a more European natural game style.  In fact, because we all hang out, we have started incorporating massive amounts of eachother’s styles into our games, and made them stronger.

Using Mystery Method to score 10s

I personally find that the European style game is harder to execute on the hardest targets, because if they’re hard 10s (models, strippers, and such), if you walk up and start going C&F, they’ll just ignore you.  They don’t give a fuck.  Why?  Because even if you’re ten times cooler than the average guys, guess what?  There are STILL a lot of very good looking, rich, socially proofed guys, who ALSO have your C&F type stuff down (they do it naturally), who will outgame you.

At the same time, how OFTEN do you see a hard HB10?  RARE.  So I don’t focus on gaming them, although I CAN and know how.  Still, its nice to know how to do it.

Take when I was in Whistler BC, skiing at BlackComb with Papa and Twentysix and Alphamale.  This was a month ago.  I try to go C&F on this smoking hot HB10 waitress.  I’m in my generic ski gear.  She giggles a bit, but really I don’t want to mentally masterbate – it wasn’t really going anywhere.

Then I sit down, and I think “She’s just not a giggly girl maybe”.  haa, WRONG!  I just couldn’t accept that Mr. Coolguy PUA that I am, wasn’t coming across good enough for her.  The proof?  Ten minutes later, the lead singer of the most popular Canadian rap group (Swollen Members, a cool group that will be mainstream in the U.S. probably next year) walks in.  He ignores her.  Haa!  The dude doesn’t give a fuck.  I personally know of at least 3 girls who have slept with this guy, that I’ve met while I’m out.  This guy gets so much ass that he could care less about yet another HB10 trying to get with him.  He just wants his beer and to chill with his friends after a long day of skiing.

Anyway, this dude has the social value to play up the active disinterest, and get her chasing him.  MAN, this girl was chasing him.

Point is, if I would have just gone in there, and taken over all her friends and ignored her, I probably could have done the same (until the rap star rolled in I guess though!).  But I went European style game, and I got her to giggle a bit and then lost her.

This is what Mystery means when he says “A 10 must choose YOU.  You cannot choose a 10.”   In truth, alot of 10s are “soft” 10s, and you can game them straight up.  But others, you need to play up the active disinterest, and takeover her social group and ignore her and lower her self esteem.

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